tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36381697821102304.post917132176734612056..comments2023-10-19T10:47:54.941-06:00Comments on Tolkien Inspiration: Why I didn't like The Hobbit movie Ligandilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03196438778777211059noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36381697821102304.post-84442302899527825542013-02-08T04:33:05.727-06:002013-02-08T04:33:05.727-06:00Hello! Did you ever happen to utilize any specific...Hello! Did you ever happen to utilize any specific services to attract more readers this domain on a daily basis? Can't wait to see your reply.Ashleys Bloghttp://fightforwhatulove.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36381697821102304.post-45255722892940407722012-12-19T04:28:12.480-06:002012-12-19T04:28:12.480-06:00you start claiming that a movie and a book can'...you start claiming that a movie and a book can't be put in the same bag, yet most of your review is a nitpicking of the movie based on the book. Anyone who has read the book and watched the movie can do that... so nothing of substance there. imo!<br /><br />I didn't know that about Christopher Tolkien. Reminded me of Alan Moore and his unwillingness to share writing credits in both 'V for vendetta' and 'Watchmen'. And while I respect his decision and to some extent share it, that didn't prevent me from watching both movies and enjoying them as such. (having read the comic books beforehand) If you ask me which experience I enjoyed more, that's another question! But that and comparing them are two different things if the difference between the mediums is clear in your head.<br /><br />Finally, I just want to point out that if your indignation is so sincere and rooted, why go out and give money to this cash cow of a movie which was clearly made for monetary reasons? Why taint the memory of JRR Tolkien this way? Why watch a story on the screen if you already read the book and love it to bits? ;)crincledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05141172042533627012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36381697821102304.post-12838404779824005742012-12-17T21:11:42.105-06:002012-12-17T21:11:42.105-06:00Right! Now I remember clearly that Gandalf-at-Rive...Right! Now I remember clearly that Gandalf-at-Rivendell-while-the-Dwarves-depart scene. Maybe they intented precisely that, to show Gandalf knew they were leaving, whether it was a previous agreement with Thorin or not. If not, then indeed Thorin abandoned him, xD even though Gandalf would meet them afterwards! I don't remember what the Dwarves answer Bilbo when he asks why are they leaving Gandalf behind. In any case, I dislike these changes, even if they could add to the story!<br /><br />And regarding Gandalf being more clever than Saruman, remember that indeed Saruman knew about Sauron in Dol Guldur, but he was on purpose delaying the Council to attack it, since he " had then begun to desire to possess the One Ring himself, and he hoped that it might reveal himself, seeking its master, if Sauron were let be for a time."<br /><br />And I completely agree, the changes are a matter of taste! Thanks a lot for your interesting comment, I appreciate it! :DLigandilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03196438778777211059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36381697821102304.post-72043767968765899672012-12-17T19:52:30.138-06:002012-12-17T19:52:30.138-06:00I must say that I seem to have enjoyed the film a ...I must say that I seem to have enjoyed the film a bit more than you. While I am certainly not alone in this, there are others (Britta, for example) who took similar umbrage with PJ's copious changes. To my mind, most of the changes are largely a matter of taste, and whether or not you prefer them likely depends on how familiar (and loyal) you are to Tolkien's original version. For myself, I can only affirm that all mythology tends to change with the teller and, viewed solely on it's own, I find the film-story to be an appreciable effort.<br /><br />There is one small point, however, with which I strictly disagree. That is, that the Dwarves abandoned Gandalf at Rivendell. On the contrary, the scene immediately preceding it finds Galadriel telling Gandalf, "They're leaving. And YOU KNOW." This was meant to convey that Gandalf's meeting with Elrond and Saruman was part formality and part distraction — in other words, that he was buying time for the company to escape, lest the elders try and talk them out of it. We are to assume, then, that Gandalf either instructed them to leave during his absence or knew that Thorin would depart at his first opportunity. Either way, Gandalf got what he wanted. <br /><br />While this clearly departs from the book, I think this is one instance in which Peter Jackson had it right. Of course, in the book, it is actually Gandalf who "runs away" when the Goblins attack at the cave. Personally, I always thought it was a bit un-wizardlike to dodge a fight so brazenly while your friends are being taken captive. Clever or not, it really doesn't speak to the Gandalf who we know will later battle a Balrog singlehandedly. Of course, Gandalf returns to save the day, but if he was really spoiling for a rumble, it likely would have been easier to engage the few goblins in the cave, versus the entire horde in Goblintown. By having him necessarily delayed at Rivendell, it avoids having to contrive his sudden escape and provides, in my mind, a more credible (and wizardlike) reason for his absence. <br /><br />It also, incidentally, tells us quite a bit more about Gandalf the character that it would had he simply ducked out of the cave. We know that he's abreast of what's going on, even when he's not directly present. And it also helps establish that while Gandalf is less powerful than Saruman, he's no less clever. Of couse, a writer can simply type out "Gandalf was a clever wizard." A filmmaker, however, has actually to show Gandalf BEING a clever wizard and, in this light, I think Peter Jackson did an affable job. teejaysplacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990795388435748277noreply@blogger.com